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    New tenkara rod for backpackers

    In collaboration with Backpacking Light, Tenkara USA has designed a tenkara rod specifically for the backpacking community. At 9' 10" extended and only 16" collapsed it is enough shorter than the existing tenkara rods on the market that the difference will be appreciated by anglers fishing small, brushy creeks and the ultralight backpacker for whom every inch and every ounce counts. The new rod, named Hane (Japanese for "feather") weighs 2.7 ounces, about on par with the lightest tenkara rods available. The action is 7:3, which should make crisp, accurate casts close in, but which ought to provide enough muscle to handle a longer line if you need a little extra reach on a pond or larger pool. You'd probably want to carry several lines of different lengths.

    I'm not a backpacker, and the streams I fish aren't so brushy that I would need a rod that short, so I do not think I'll be getting one, but for some anglers it might be just what they are looking for.

    http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin ... g_rod.html

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    Re: New tenkara rod for backpackers

    Hey, that's really cool.

    I am gearing up for some backpacking this next season and am aiming for a light pack, less than 20lbs for a couple of nights and all food and water. I'll be carrying a tent, sleeping bag, pad etc.

    The ultra-light backpackers will be stoked to have this rod but the difference in weight vs. the couple of feet in reach?

    I'll be sticking with the Ebisu and a short pack fry rod.
    Japan: Tsuttenkai, Jolly Fishers, member since 2010

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    Re: New tenkara rod for backpackers

    The 11' Iwana is 2.5 ounces, so you save .2 ounce and get an extra foot. The 12' Iwana is the same weight as the Hane at 2.7 ounces, but two feet longer. Of course, both the Iwanas are longer when collapsed than the Hane, which might make a difference in packing, and for some streams, two feet longer is two feet too long. I have fished tenkara-style with a 10 foot rod, and the 9' 10" length of the Hane is definitely as short as I'd ever want to go.

    I guess it depends on how tight the stream is and how constrained your pack is. I suppose it might also depend on the price, which has not yet been announced.

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    Re: New tenkara rod for backpackers

    ...of course not, Ryan is a businessman like Daniel. They are checking demand with "in-stock reminders" with e-mail, they get a survey of demand. The Japanese (Chinese or Korean) manufacture will make what you want, or have already made it and just need someone to buy and market it.

    That's the process.

    The ultra-light backpackers are so focused on details, ultra-focused. Gram conscious. They are tailor marketing and I can't fault them at all, that is their business. But for those of us who backpack and fish, our Ebisu or any other tenkarausa.com rod is really not far off the mark seeing that you can shorten a couple of sections if you find it necessary.



    The part I find interesting is that all of a sudden, Ryan "develops" a backpacking tenkara rod, dig a little deeper and it's "co-developing" and look at the big picture and it's marketing.



    I'm really glad that this rod is being developed, I want choices, options and such and the rods will just get better and better so I am really happy this is starting to take off.



    Tenkara is so simple, in the hands of a dedicated fly fisher, you will have true experts, many many of them very soon. I know of at least five people that I would bank on being just as good as Daniel or yourself very quickly. It is not hard at all, simple, easy to understand and master. Daniel or you or anyone does not get to decide if you are a master, you do.

    Tenkara is open for discussion as far as I am concerned, it's not closed and defined by others.

    It is not difficult at all and there is no hype for me in practicing it.


    It is just fun.


    It's almost as easy as when we were children, when we lifted our first cane pole. To a fly fisherman, it is that easy.

    If I had money to burn, I would buy the rod only on the aspect that it is the shortest rod offered and some of the streams I fish are pretty tight. But as a specialized fly fisher of small streams, I'm not going to limit myself to one rod for it all, I'll take a tenkara rod AND a petite pack fly rod so I'm not compromising.
    Japan: Tsuttenkai, Jolly Fishers, member since 2010

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    Re: New tenkara rod for backpackers

    I wonder how the 7:3 action works out in the shorter rod. More precise with fly placement?

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    Re: New tenkara rod for backpackers

    Quote Originally Posted by adam
    The part I find interesting is that all of a sudden, Ryan "develops" a backpacking tenkara rod, dig a little deeper and it's "co-developing" and look at the big picture and it's marketing.

    There's really less here than meets the eye. It's not "marketing" nearly so much as shoddy reporting. Had I taken the time to learn the facts before I made my initial report, there would have been no all of a sudden changes in wording.

    And I have no doubt whatsoever that others - many others - will soon become better tenkara anglers than Daniel or me. Probably, they're better anglers already and will need only a short time to understand the differences between tenkara and Western fly fishing, and explore the possibilities that the long rod and light line open up. A more inquisitive mind, more stream time, lots of things could make someone much better, and fairly soon, too.

    Perhaps you still misunderstand my attempts to describe tenkara. It is what it is and has been developed and refined over hundreds of years. I am not so much trying to define it as trying to prevent people who haven't tried it from defining it by telling others who haven't tried it that it's just dapping or glorified cane pole fishing, or that any fly angler worth his salt has done it for years with his 7' 4 weight rod (without even knowing it).

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    Re: New tenkara rod for backpackers

    Chris, you are good.

    Nothing was pointed at you, it wasn't pointed at anyone, there is no point.

    I never backed down from what I wrote at Tenkarausa.com because I don't see cane pole fishing as a glorified fishing technique or lessened to a juvenile experience, nothing like that. How could something so much fun and innocent be negative? I see tenkara in that light, very much like cane pole fishing when we were kids.

    It is my take that once you understood what I wrote, we were good.

    I enjoy everything that you write, I've learned a lot from you.
    Japan: Tsuttenkai, Jolly Fishers, member since 2010

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    Re: New tenkara rod for backpackers

    Yeah, we're good. Sometimes I think we must be on a different wavelength or something because it does take me a while to understand what you really mean. (Best not to comment before my second cup of coffee I guess.)

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    Re: New tenkara rod for backpackers

    That would be a normal response Chris.

    I write fast and sometimes a thought or two ahead of the topic.

    My apologies in advance.
    Japan: Tsuttenkai, Jolly Fishers, member since 2010

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    Re: New tenkara rod for backpackers

    You guys are funny. I've been reading both your posts for a long time. It seems I just got diverted to washingtonflyfishing.com because I lived around Seattle for almost 40 years and just drifted away from small stream fishing for a few years. Now that I have a Tenkara rod and live in Warm Springs, VA with lots of small streams, I'll be more than just an occasional participant. Your both good.

    Randy

    PS. Adam, a few years back in your spiritual meanderings I suggested you read CS Lewis's MERE CHRISTIANITY. If your still looking around I now also recommend THE SHACK by William P. Young.

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